Saturday 12 November 2011

Dying to live -- Vision 2020 Northern Synod

The group remaining in the Church at the Synod at Wideopen commented on the Northern Synod Strategy. They had both supportive and negative comments to share. Whilst the Plan was accepted in principle it was agreed that Mission Executive needed to do some additional work to make it more acceptable to the majority.

It would be helpful to hear where the tweaking/rewriting needs to be done to make it more universally acceptable to our churches. You will recall that there is no requirement to adopt the whole approach - some churches will want to focus on just one or two themes   to re-energise mission in their communities.
Some of the comments from the floor may be useful in helping people suggest where a different wording or approach may be required:

  • Felt inspired by the ideas and felt there was plenty in the documentation to attract churches wanting to find something to re-energise themselves
  • Whilst unwilling to wholeheartedly endorse the approach it was suggested that whilst it would not change the world it looked a very worthwhile exercise for churches to undertake.
  • Several people felt that Elderships were ageing and their energies were already focused on day-to-day church matters.  They felt they could not cope with anything new.
  • Concern that LMMR which might help Churches review their positions and plan for the future with support from others wasn’t yet off the ground and there was scepticism that sufficient other support would be available.
  • Some showed impatience with yet another initiative .Don't fiddle whilst Rome burns. ! Do things!  Have faith but do things now!
  • The statements in the document help people to think clearly -- they provide signposts and are therefore helpful.
  • Dying to Live isn’t a good name.  Generally people will not connect with the concept and therefore it will have negative connotations with many church members.
  • A feeling that the church is not using its financial resources well.  Churches in vacancy are paying considerable sums in M& M. and pulpit fees.  This money might be better used by those churches to further their local mission ambitions.
  • We have to focus on growth otherwise we will die!
  • Ecumenism just obscures falling membership -- Growth in the URC is the key. But how?
  • Concerns  that we may have a ” Bishop- led synod” -- give ministers the opportunity to address the problems of falling congregations in a collegial way.  Give them their head!
  • This is another initiative which glosses over problems -- we need people on the ground to develop mission opportunities which might fuel church growth.

HELP US TO SHAPE A DOCUMENT WHICH REFLECTS YOUR THOUGHTS & CONCERNS. LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK!

Sue Bush

Member- Mission Executive

2 comments:

  1. Not having been at Synod I have missed the debate but it seems to me that the church is generally 'dying to live' ie very few people in any posiiton of responsibility want things just to go on into a final decline. But how do we do it? Perhaps we need to take the title in another way - ie we need to die to some things in order to live. What might these things be? One thing might be the constant desire to manage things on our own terms instead of waiting on the Spirit to lead us. We need to be business like in our affairs and prudent with our finances: but we also need to be inspired to take risks and step outside of the cocoon of church life to focus on the mission of God in the world. We need to learn that the church of tomorrow may be very different from anything we have hitherto known. I long for a church that is radical in its challenge to today's world so obsessed with money: a church that lives out that challenge in its own life to the degree where the Gospel cuts an edge with the conventions of our culture: a church that is open and welcoming having faced the challenge such openness brings: maybe a bit like the early church.....
    Or am I just a dreamer?

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  2. If we want to grow? Then resourcing growth is an answer. Taking a church with potential and ensuring it has a minister and backing to growth. If it doesn't then the contract for the minister is not renewed. Now there are a lot of bones in this, but it is a starting point.

    Church A, with 70/80 is offerred a minister 100% for 5 years reviewed at 3.

    Church B, thinks it can do without a SM and grow with a NSM, but backed by a church worker. Again 5yrs to see if it works and can become self funding.

    Church C. 100 in number, can afford a full scoped minister and can maintain numbers. Let them have a minister, rather than ignoring a churches ability to pay.

    Church D. 80 in number, can afford a full scoping but Synod System will not allow. Must share with three other churches. Call the minister a chaplain for that's what they will be as three churches slowly die.

    Please no more glossy brochures or recommendations or synod proposals or anything that starts with "We give thanks for" Because it sounds like the kiss of death

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